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The wind began to blow, so I made Patsy my assistant. She held a reflector when we did the Little Red Riding Hood photograph. By then, I'd photographed JonBenet in eleven different outfits. She was a neat kid. I never saw anything like that. There was a detective who knew something about habits of pedophiles and he said that pedophiles sometimes purchase videotapes of pageant events. When a pedophile views one of these tapes, he imagines that the child is performing just for him.

Although Inquiring Mind is right about the audience for the pageant itself being made up of family and friends, there is apparently a blackmarket in kiddie pagaeant videos. Although I cannot tell you how I have so much information on these types, let me tell you that the information I have is first hand knowledge.

I have spoken with many pedophiles and or child molesters. The reason I am telling you this is because I want to end this pageant stuff. Most certainly, pedophiles are there -- they are there because children are there and they want children. But, it is no different than the sport activities our children participate in everyday.

Pedophiles are at our Little League games, our girl scout and boy scout meetings; at our relgious functions -- they seek out places where children will be. If you are a divorced woman with kids, you are at risk. Lots of times peds will seek out these woman, befriend them and guess what? Offer to babysit kids, etc. They'll date the mother to get at the kids. There are thousands of child porn photos floating around on the web. The peds are becoming quite organized -- they have their own system of communication between themselves to exchange information, photos, videos, etc.

Some encode the photos that they pass via the internet to help avoid detection. Lots of the pictures are polaroids they pass on obviously, they can't go have their roll of film developed. Beauty pageants are not the sole nesting grounds for pedophiles. A pedophile would much rather have hands-on contact then just an afternoon watching someone on a stage so they tend to migrate toward activities that involve children.

I would be lying to you if I told you that pedophiles don't have pictures of JonBenet in her costumes from the pageants; they do, just as they have pictures of teens in magazines and much, much worse. Pedophiles have a "stash" of photos etc. Some keep extensive records of their pics and their "conquests," so to speak. They are predators that prey on children. They seduce the child by offering presents, etc. If you want to protect your kid, teach them about these predators in a way that the child will understand.

Let your child know that if someone bothers them to let you know and that you will understand and protect them. Talk to your schools about policy -- teachers meetings kids in out of school settings say their homes is suspicious and should not be indulged because you never know.

Just by keeping them out of pageants, you are not gonna keep them away from pedophiles. My 2 cents Did she tell you or did you hear it. Judith Phillips: It was done in an indirect way I don't think that was something that Patsy would disclose publicly to me because she knew me well enough to know, that would be something that I would not approve of so why mention it to me.

But when I went to her home to sell her some photographs. They were having the open house for the Christmas Tour of Homes [] she looked at some of my slides of the Flatiron sand other pictures. She was interested in buying some so I went there with some of these photographs ready for her to see.

Judith Phillips: That was my first clue. Mame: That is the cowboy outfit that we have all seen? I said your kidding.! She said oh yea she's done some already. In Charlesvoix Were just going do a few. That's when I ask the million dollar question to Nedra. You know I was in a position, that it was none of my business to tell them oh my god this is horrible.

I was not, it was there home I was not in the position they didn't ask me how I felt about it so I had to say it in an indirect way. That's why I came up with a question. I'm not going do this. Mame: And you thought of that then right there at the beginning. Judith Phillips: Yea Mame: what did Nedra say? Judith Phillips: It was a way to get to ask a question that was not out of line but it had the same answer.

Yea Mame: So Nedra's answer was? They were all so cute and knew the routine fairly well and if they didn't, so what? But JonBenet just beamed.

I was sitting on the front row, and afterward several moms came up to me and said, "Where did JonBenet learn to do that? Pageants were still taking place on high school stages in small towns, just like the contest I'd been in nearly twenty years earlier in West Virginia. The event sounded tailor-made for JonBenet. The pageant had a patriotic theme since it was held over the Fourth. When we arrived, we learned there were only two other little girls in JonBenet's age group.

I remember her marching around the stage waving a little flag amidst twinkling red, white, and blue lights while the emcee sang "Proud to Be an American. And I was proud of her. She was just beaming. JonBenet won the title of Little Miss Charlevoix, and now she was all fired up to do it again. The beauty pageants.

But what we saw in still photograph's and in videos was a child dressed like an adult. Very suggestive in many of these pictures. Lipstick, mascara. Moving around on the stage in these beauty pageants. Therefore, there's got to be something wrong here. JonBenet was an entertainer. Little girls dress up and play dress up. Fun for you both to have her do this? It's not unlike a father who enjoyed playing baseball as a child.

He wants to impart that same love of the game with his his son or daughter. And there's just absolutely nothing wrong with it. That didn't come from JonBenet. That's coming from the viewer not the child. Her mother initially did it on a lark, but later there were professional photographs, custom-made costumes, and singing and dancing lessons to help her compete.

You sort of play down the whole pageant aspect of your lives a bit in the book, saying it was basically nine pageants. But some people might say, that's a lot of pageants for a little six-year-old girl. I say that it was one part of who JonBenet was. But she also liked to play softball, and climb rock climbing walls and ride bicycles and roller skate. But, you know, it's--work on your talent.

That's what--that's what counts. COURIC: I'm sure you both know by now that this whole beauty pageant aspect of your lives has struck many people, who aren't in this world, as kind of weird. Some would say creepy, in fact, to take a little six-year-old girl and poof up her hair and put makeup on her and dress her up like a showgirl. You know, we had a good time. They like to put on lipstick.

They like to wear mommy's high heels. That--this was just kind of an extension of that. And--and JonBenet had no stage fright. COURIC: You wrote in the book, John, I was curious about this, that you were dismayed that some of her pageant photos had been doctored with heavy makeup. But, as part of the pageant, she would wear makeup, wouldn't she? I mean, you I highlighted it gently to try to blend it a little bit. COURIC: That does seem to be sort of an issue, though, that has--that has influenced public opinion, that you had your daughter compete in beauty pageants.

RAMSEY: But does that translate, because you went with your daughter on the weekend to a talent show, does that translate to make us murderers? I mean, come on. I don't think so. It was something we enjoyed together. And I don't care what people say about it. It is a precious memory to me. And if she were alive, we'd probably still be doing it. This was my response and I wonder what you think.

Boy, that's a hard one. Could someone have seen her at a pageant and targeted her there? She was also at the local mall in a little program promoting pageants and in a local parade just before the murder. She could have caught anyone's eye in any of those places.

I also feel she could have caught someone's eye at the school, church, park or just playing in her front yard. You asked if I think there is a link between the pageants and her murder I have to say there certainly could be, but I don't see any evidence of it. If that was the link, might the killer have taken a tiara to the basement to leave with the body or take with him as a momento?

Might he not have referred to that somehow in the ransom note? I really don't have the answer there - that is on BIG question mark in my mind. Rawls, Esq.

Schroeder, Esq. Derek Bauer, Esq. Lin Wood, Esq. Paulk, Esq. I am going to give this back to you, 25 and I will take that back. Page 1 I would like to ask you, with respect 2 to the beauty pageants regarding JonBenet Ramsey, 3 were those pageants frequent or infrequent?

By Mr. Hoffman I simply want to 25 know whether or not, as her mother, you felt that Page 1 the level of activity in beauty pageants was high 2 or low, in your mind?

Did you keep a room in the house 5 known as the pageant room in your home in 6 Boulder? Did you keep a room where you kept 9 all your trophies and all of JonBenet's pageant 10 trophies in your home in Boulder? She had some in her room, some in 12 the play room and different places. I just have one other question. Did 14 you at any time tell anyone that JonBenet was 15 going to be the next Ms. America, or that she 16 was being groomed to be the next Ms. Well, she could hardly be the next 18 Ms.

America since she was only six years old. I understand. But at the time you 20 were taking her to the beauty pageants, did you 21 at any time say to anybody that you were grooming 22 JonBenet to be the next Ms. I don't know. I may have said 24 something like that. Number one, two of the most important people who should have been questioned weren't.

Pure and simple, both would have great information that would have furthered the investigation, one way or the other. And, quite possibly, either one could have had a motive to kidnap or murder her. Why weren't they contacted? Jane Stobie, Gail's boss, said she gave Gail's name to every detective and investigator she spoke with. What did Burke say about the pineapple? Did Ramsey remarry? How many pageants did JonBenet compete in?

When was JonBenet found? How old is Gary Oliva? Who bought the Ramsey house in Boulder? How many rooms did the Ramsey house have? Who is Bill McReynolds? Can you drink pineapple with milk? Early suspicion fell on her parents, but they were exonerated after DNA at the scene was found to belong to a male unrelated to the Ramsey family.

Birth date: August 6, Birth place: Atlanta, Georgia. Read More. Parents: John and Patricia "Patsy" Ramsey. To this day, amongst all of the information about the case, descriptions of the crime never fail to ignore the fact that Ramsay was a beauty pageant queen at the time of her death. This is likely because it's a role she's most recognizable in: Many of the photos used to identify Ramsey in media reports and articles are ones depicting her with big, blonde curls, bright lipstick, a huge smile, and a tiara at a beauty pageant.

It's unclear exactly how many pageants Ramsey participated in overall, but it is possible to figure out how many she won.



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